[Impromptu] Impromptu v1.4 Beta

Paul C. Fisher pfisher at mobeard.org
Tue Mar 31 01:39:37 GMT 2009


I do use the menu help function but I could live without it. More to the
point, I will be using impromptu next year in a high school programming
class (2nd year course after a first year in DrScheme) to teach
multi-media programming. Having the menu item would be helpful for the
students. However, the various movies you have been posting are also very
helpful.

It wouldn't be the end of the world if the menu item went away.

I did get the help view to crash by searching in the top  toolbar search
field. The crash report is at the bottom of this message.

As for version 1.4 itself, I see some odd MIDI related issues on a G4 PPC
running 10.5.6. I see varying numbers of the following error:

:ERROR: Error sending MIDI Event: -10867

Sometimes I will see a flood of these sometimes just one or two. I've also
noticed that 1.4 seems to be struggling with the processing on my G4. A
'piece' which works fine in 1.3 seems to hit frequent timing glitches
which seem to be processing speed related. This is a G4 however and
probably shouldn't be your reference machine ;-)

This is sort of fuzzy feedback I'm afraid and may not give you anything to
really work with. My sense is that v1.4 is pushing the limits of my
hardware, which is pretty old hardware (there can be a home brew in it for
anyone who successfully lobbies my tech director to get me a new machine)
I have not tried it on more capable Intel hardware but I will at the first
opportunity.

PcF

impromptu at lists.moso.com.au writes:
>Hi Pierre,
>
>
>Oh yes, what to do about help in impromptu.  It's such a large problem
>that I try not to think about it :(  My current strategy (and this
>changes regularly) is to provide FAQ entries on the website that try to
>cover common areas of usage.  This covers the most territory with the
>least amount of work.  The examples files are also there to help out with
>this to a certain extent.  However, there are large chunks of impromptu
>functionality that no-one really knows about because they're just not
>documented.
>
>
>Anyway ... I can't get either impromptu, or the help viewer to crash?  Is
>anyone else seeing the problem that Pierre describes?  Any chance of a
>crash log?
>
>
>Out of interest, how many people use the help menu item?  How many people
>access help on the website?  And how many people use the scheme (help
><function>) function?  I'm thinking about removing the help menu item
>completely?
>
>
>Cheers,
>Andrew.

Process:         Help Viewer [3143]
Path:            /System/Library/CoreServices/Help
Viewer.app/Contents/MacOS/Help Viewer
Identifier:      com.apple.helpviewer
Version:         4.0.1 (170.3)
Build Info:      HelpViewer-1700300~7
Code Type:       PPC (Native)
Parent Process:  launchd [130]

Date/Time:       2009-03-30 21:34:12.040 -0400
OS Version:      Mac OS X 10.5.6 (9G55)
Report Version:  6

Exception Type:  EXC_BAD_ACCESS (SIGBUS)
Exception Codes: KERN_PROTECTION_FAILURE at 0x0000000000000001
Crashed Thread:  0

Thread 0 Crashed:
0   libobjc.A.dylib               	0x956fc318 _class_getMethodNoSuper + 68
1   libobjc.A.dylib               	0x956f1068
_class_lookupMethodAndLoadCache + 192
2   libobjc.A.dylib               	0x957030c4 objc_msgSend + 260
3   com.apple.Foundation          	0x9006e7bc NSPopAutoreleasePool + 516
4   com.apple.Foundation          	0x900a08f0 __NSFireDelayedPerform + 568
5   com.apple.CoreFoundation      	0x941df9d8 CFRunLoopRunSpecific + 2968
6   com.apple.HIToolbox           	0x920aebc4 RunCurrentEventLoopInMode +
264
7   com.apple.HIToolbox           	0x920ae9e8 ReceiveNextEventCommon + 412
8   com.apple.HIToolbox           	0x920ae828
BlockUntilNextEventMatchingListInMode + 84
9   com.apple.AppKit              	0x916be724 _DPSNextEvent + 596
10  com.apple.AppKit              	0x916be0dc -[NSApplication
nextEventMatchingMask:untilDate:inMode:dequeue:] + 112
11  com.apple.AppKit              	0x916b7d98 -[NSApplication run] + 736
12  com.apple.AppKit              	0x9168879c NSApplicationMain + 440
13  com.apple.helpviewer          	0x00002910 0x1000 + 6416

Thread 1:
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1   libSystem.B.dylib             	0x932c007c mach_msg + 56
2   com.apple.CoreFoundation      	0x941df554 CFRunLoopRunSpecific + 1812
3   com.apple.CFNetwork           	0x9637772c
CFURLCacheWorkerThread(void*) + 292
4   libSystem.B.dylib             	0x932fb024 _pthread_start + 316

Thread 2:
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1   libSystem.B.dylib             	0x932c007c mach_msg + 56
2   com.apple.CoreFoundation      	0x941df554 CFRunLoopRunSpecific + 1812
3   com.apple.Foundation          	0x900c95f8
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5   libSystem.B.dylib             	0x932fb024 _pthread_start + 316

Thread 3:
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1   com.apple.CoreFoundation      	0x941ea9c8 __CFSocketManager + 764

Thread 4:
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semaphore_timedwait_signal_trap + 8
1   libSystem.B.dylib             	0x932fc2c8 _pthread_cond_wait + 1320
2   com.apple.Foundation          	0x900afb24 -[NSCondition
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lockWhenCondition:beforeDate:] + 268
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5   com.apple.Foundation          	0x90072764 __NSThread__main__ + 1004
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Thread 0 crashed with PPC Thread State 32:
  srr0: 0x956fc318  srr1: 0x0000f030   dar: 0x00000001 dsisr: 0x40000000
    r0: 0x4499f6a6    r1: 0xbfffd800    r2: 0x00004000    r3: 0x00000000
    r4: 0x00000000    r5: 0x00000000    r6: 0xffffffff    r7: 0x0b0fe005
    r8: 0x000008fd    r9: 0x00600044   r10: 0x956fac40   r11: 0xa057fdbc
   r12: 0x932c3814   r13: 0x00000000   r14: 0xa070c478   r15: 0x7fffffff
   r16: 0xffffffff   r17: 0x00000001   r18: 0x00000000   r19: 0x00000000
   r20: 0x00000000   r21: 0x00000000   r22: 0xbfffea30   r23: 0x00000f03
   r24: 0x00209520   r25: 0xa071089c   r26: 0x0df07c00   r27: 0xa08dc2e4
   r28: 0x0df07c00   r29: 0x957a00d0   r30: 0x00000001   r31: 0x956fc2e4
    cr: 0x44042224   xer: 0x00000004    lr: 0x956fc300   ctr: 0x932c3814
vrsave: 0x00000000

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